Menurut saya, ide untuk mendapat gelar Ph.D dalam waktu yang sesingkat singkatnya karena alasan ingin segera bekrja sah sah saja. Tapi, mengapa harus Ph. D. Saat ini banyak lowongan kerja yang bisa menerima lulusan S1, apalagi S2. SO, ambil master aja dulu.
Ide dari maya_13302006 mengenai integrated Master/ Ph. D, boleh juga. Gimana caranya, mb' maya? Univ mana aja yang punya program seperti itu?
Thanks,
Ifra
From: maya_13302006 <maya_13302006@
To: beasiswa@yahoogroup
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 7:27:54 AM
Subject: [beasiswa] Re: [butuh info] Ingin dapat PhD dengan tempo yang sesingkat-singkatny
Halo Mas Franklin,
Sepengetahuan saya memang kebanyakan universitas di Eropa hanya membutuhkan 3 tahun utk menyelesaikan S3. Tp klo univ di US sepertinya hampir semua membutuhkan waktu 5 tahun.
Namun perlu dicatat, waktu tersebut adalah waktu tercepat dan ideal. Tetap professor lah yg akan memutuskan apakah seseorang patut mendapatkan PhD nya dlm waktu tersebut.
Dr pengalaman teman saya yg awalnya menyangka bahwa dia dpt menyelesaikan PhDnya dlm waktu 3 tahun, tetapi ternyata professornya menuntut lebih banyak paper dan jurnal. Sementara buat jurnal terutama, biasanya membutuhkan waktu yg lama utk mereview.
Selain itu walaupun ada universitas yg mgk tdk mensyaratkan paper ato jurnal buat kelulusan, tetap saja saya rasa sangat disayangkan sekali apabila kita lulus PhD tanpa paper dan jurnal. Krn menurut saya, tujuan PhD itu sendiri adalah full research, inilah saatnya utk mempublikasi hasil research kita. Berbeda dgn masters ato bachelor yg lbh fokus ke coursework.
Klo pendapat saya sendiri sangat sulit utk memperoleh gelar PhD langsung tanpa master krn butuh kemampuan yg bener2 extraordinary. Saran saya mgk sebaiknya ambil integrated Master/PhD saja. Kira2 butuh waktu 4 ato 5 tahunan.
Maap klo tdk memberikan solusi^^
Regards,
Maya
--- In beasiswa@yahoogroup s.com, "julius_kusuma" <julius_kusuma@ ...> wrote:
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> --- In beasiswa@yahoogroup s.com, evan kanoko <adm_breever@ > wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Program PhD itu berbeda-beda tergantung Universitas dan tempat (negara). Setahu saya dalam bidang sains, program PhD di singapur menawarkan waktu 4 tahun, Jerman bisa selesai dalam 3 tahun, sedangkan di daerah North America yang saya tahu kebanyakan akan lulus dalam 5-6 tahun. Jadi semua itu tidak ada yang pasti. Karena PhD juga merupakan research, biasanya itu tergantung dari research tersebut dan kebijakan dari universitas mengizinkan lulus lebih cepat atau lebih lama dari waktu yang diproyeksikan.
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> > Kalau tiga tahun, ada yang bilang biasanya datanya kurang kuat. Jadi biasanya 4 tahun itu proyek akan lebih "mantap".
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> > Kalau mau langsung PhD dari Bachelor setahu saya memang bisa, tapi Universitas yang bagus akan minta nilai kelulusan yang bagus dari S1 tersebut misal Honors atau Cum laude seperti yang dijelaskan oleh Iwan. Kalau memang nilainya kurang/tidak sampai cum laude, ada dua jalan. Pertama cari universitas yang persyaratan masuknya lebih longgar (biasanya uni bagus lebih ketat). Yang kedua ambil master degree dulu.
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> > Semoga membantu.
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> >
>
> In the US, once you are admitted to a PhD program, typically
> there are only a few requirements before you earn a PhD:
>
> 1 You have to pass some sort of academic standard, typically
> a set of courses with a minimal GPA, and possibly a
> qualifying examination to demonstrate your mastery of the
> subjects.
>
> 2 You have to have a research thesis supervisor.
>
> 3 You have to form a thesis committee that accept your choice
> of thesis topic.
>
> 4 You have to have a thesis that is acceptable to the committee.
>
> 5 You may have to satisfy some sort of residency requirement,
> typically a minimum number of semesters that you are enrolled
> as a PhD candidate.
>
> Here are a few special cases that I know of. Don't quote me
> on these, I'm going from recollection alone.
>
> * In MIT's EECS department, the only academic standard is
> passing a set of written, possibly oral exams. You don't
> have to take any classes if you don't have to, but you need
> to have a minor. It's possible to "transfer" credits from
> classes in other universities.
>
> * In UC Berkeley's EECS department there is no thesis defense
> requirement. It's up to you and your committee to decide
> whether you will present your work.
>
> * In UC Berkeley, I think across all departments, you have
> to have been enrolled for at least 3 semesters.
>
> * In UC Berkeley's Math department you have to satisfy a
> "classical language" requirement, meaning that you have to
> show that you can read mathematical texts in two languages
> selected from Chinese, ancient Greek, French, German,
> Arabic.
>
> * I think that either Harvard or MIT's Math department
> has a minimum thesis length requirement. This is because
> for a while, there was competition between the PhDs about
> who can solve the most difficult mathematical problem, and
> then explain the result in as few pages as possible.
>
> * I think that TU Delft in the Netherlands is the most
> flexible among all the universities I am aware of. If you
> can find a thesis supervisor, you can do your PhD remotely
> and never even have to set foot on campus except for your
> thesis defense. Anyways, I think that European universities
> are more flexible about how a PhD study is done.
>
> We can go on forever discussing the peculiarities of each
> university and each department, in order to minimize the time
> that we have to spend doing a PhD.
>
> But the most important one is, why do you want to do a PhD in
> the first place??
>
> Regards,
> Julius
>
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